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Mitch Ratcliffe writes, RE Digital ID, via Doc:
Mitch takes the debaters to task because they assume that the interested corporations will wrestle each other to the ground and come up with a DigID “standard” that will be forced on everyone. He points out that the ID must be controlled by the individual. Sounds good. Well, actually, individuals never own every aspect of their own ID, because it’s our collective sense of a person that matters, not theirs. Let’s expand upon our conception of modeling an ideal marketplace:
This is human nature at work—we make each other into what we have concluded about each other. In that ideal marketplace model, I suggested that we need to emulate our idealistic vision of the village market as we conceive and program our next economic reality:
Call it idealistic, or call it a sensible disregard for digital reputation methods that have proven unsatisfactory. Every application has a vision of how its users will interact with the application. Since Xpertweb has no obligation to ask permission, to establish an industry standard or to sell to an installed base, we can design it any way we choose. The ultimate freedom in the Xpertweb design, of course, is that we don’t have to be concerned about a Business Plan, that icon of managerial capitalism responsible for more corporate losses than any quotidian human failing. As an Xpertweb user (player? see below), I maintain information on my Xpertweb site that is enough to fill in a typical order blank—name, email, etc. When I go to a seller’s site, I need only enter my Xpertweb URL, and the seller’s script retrieves everything needed to process the order. But not payment info. In the Xpertweb world, the risk is to the vendor, not the buyer, so payment, based on buyer satisfaction, happens after the sale, and the buyer is freed from exposing financial information. And, of course, she exposes only the information she’d rather not type into the seller’s form. Payment after purchase is an immense difference. By laying off the risk onto the seller, we finesse most of the difficult aspects of digital ID. With every transaction, though, a dossier is built about this person. When buying, what are her average ratings given to sellers? How do those ratings compare to other buyers’ ratings of that same seller? Reviewing the written comments she is obligated to make with every transaction, does she seem reasonable or not? Is she thoughtful or dismissive of others’ efforts? When selling her artwork to others, does she get good grades and comments, or are they enough lower than her peers to suggest a weakness? While her scores are recorded at her Xpertweb site, we would be naive to assume that anyone would incriminate themselves, so the scores and comments are also kept at the sites of each buyer and seller she deals with. Data is mirrored to the sites of her mentor and to the mentor of each party she deals with. It’s a simple matter to “walk” the sites of the people she does business with to compare her representations to the village she now inhabits. So who owns the reputation of an Xpertweb user? Just as It’s Our Internet, They’re Just the Owners, so too, the components of an Xpertweb reputation are distributed so broadly and publicly that the whole picture can be re-constituted from its many mirrored parts, whether or not the nominal “owner” of the reputation fesses up to the past. It’s still an opt-in economic model. If a seller doesn’t want to risk rejection or low ratings from buyers, then they’ll just do business the old way. If someone doesn’t want to see their reputation built this way, then they’ll just do business the old way. that’s clearly the best option for those who don’t feel the need to reach out to this new peer-based microeconomy. But Xpertweb, though managed by no one and as blind as any gene or meme, is designed to embrace the marketplace and extend it as energetically as the most ambitious corporate entity. When there’s a large enough population of people willing to let their peers record the details of their reputation, what does it say about those who refuse to? We can only leave it up to human nature. |
Author: brittblaser
“It’s My Internet. You’re Just the Owner”
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It’s been interesting to watch Doc and Eric work through Doc’s NEA description of the Internet:
Doc attracts many of us because he’s so good at coming up with the seminal phrase that captures what so many of us are thinking about. Eric took exception to the first stanza, pointing out that every corner of the Internet is owned by somebody. Like so many blogged ideas, Doc told us about reality rather than fact, and Eric took him to task over that detail. I can walk across town to Times Square in about 20 minutes, and so it seems to me that the Internet is like Times Square. Everything interesting about Times Square is owned, but it’s still a public resource. Everybody (in the vicinity) can use it, and Anybody with a sandwich board sign, a restaurant flyer, an outlandish costume or ghetto blaster can (as they see it) improve it. Although the people who own the parts could theoretically improve it until it’s unrecognizable, they’re not likely to mess with the formula. Rudy Giuliani changed Times Square more than anybody by getting rid of the panhandlers, hookers and sleaze industry. I’m not sure whether there’s an analogy there. Was he Fritz Hollings? I don’t think so. Several years ago, I built a really nice home, employing a master carpenter whose work was so good that I soon gave him his head and let him work out the details. At the end of the project, Troy told me, “It’s my house—you’re just the owner.” “I’m a Good Girl, I am” Liza Doolittle’s protestation could have no effect on Professor Higgins because he knew nothing about her. She would be better off saying “I want to be known as a good girl!” A reputation will always be in the eye of the beholder, no matter how many Digital ID mechanisms someone puts in place, or how centralized it is. As you know if you followed Doc’s and Eric’s exchange better than I could, it was about digital ID, online reputation, anonymity and privacy. I’m not sure I can or should add anything, but, since Xpertweb and this design study is mostly about reputation, here are some escapable thoughts.
The anonymous quote gets it right. Privacy is not the same as anonymity and, when we’re truly alone, consenting with other adults, we have the privacy rights we think we’re guaranteed by the Constitution. When we go out into the Agora to do business with others, we have no right to anonymity. And this ID thing is only about selling stuff. It’s not like we’ll be choosing our kid’s Day Care Center without direct experience. So, since Digital ID is only about selling, let’s put it into the frame it deserves. If we customers/consumers remain willing to foot the fraud bill charged by vendors and card companies, we will. Just because they see the possibility of saving billions doesn’t mean the problem’s going to be solved. Eric insists:
Or not. Grand visions where many big companies cooperate toward a common end seem to get bogged down in the reality of the roll-out. Is this really any different than the Microsoft’s failed centralized Passport idea? I surely don’t know and it’s not clear anyone does. Those midwesterners may not know Art, but they know what they don’t like. And they’re also just about as smart as other people. No matter. Eric is sure right about one thing: parts of the Net will be much more finicky about ID than others as, by golly, they already are. He sees the Net dividing into two worlds—the ID Net and the Anonymous Net, the former being a pretty clearly cordoned off area. Given his background, he’s probably thinking of a virtual place that’s a lot like the NSA where he used to work. Like the real world, the Net is likely to reflect the same range of anonymity as it does today. My bank is very careful about what it shows someone saying they’re me, but Amazon is less demanding and shareware authors let you take their stuff at will—catch me later, if you like it. The continuum will likely be more broad than it is now (banks to shareware), but only as a few players get more finicky. What may change the nature of ID is a change in the nature of transactions. When Reputation is Beyond PriceHere’s Eric Norlin quoting Frank Field, referencing Dave Noble:
Let’s ignore the detail that the simultaneous possession problem fades to inconsequence down at your friendly agora, where you’re handed the radishes at the moment you tender the cash. Let’s focus instead on the fact that most purchases are like a radish, an Amazon book, or a printer cartridge—of only nominal value to either party. The point is that buyers and sellers are most invested in never saying no to the customer or never being without a greengrocer. Since reliability is what matters in meatspace, where people are mostly trustworthy, how might we model those dynamics into cyberspace? |
Ming’s Dynasty
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I’ve found myself stopping by Flemming Funch’s Ming’s Metalogue daily, and reliably find a useful post. Today he’s discussing reputation systems:
Of course, Xpertweb is nothing more than a reputation system:
We’ve decided to just put the system in place rather than model it in a controlled environment. The reason: Grades must be dollar-denominated to mean anything. The only way to understand how something really works is just to do it. Our work on Xpertweb has convinced me there are 4 problems with real-world reputation systems:
Where programmers and bloggers take delight in finding bugs and celebrating quality, all organizations, like most people, are insecure. One study (can’t find it now) discovered that most high achievers are afraid they’ll be found out. Transparency exposes incompetence which is why any organization that manages an accounting system as its primary activity (is there any other kind?) cannot and will not support reputation-building. Only humans would consider such exposure and then only those highly qualified or motivated to do so. We need an economy of people who solicit suggestions for improvement from customers and mentors. I guess we’ll just have to start small. Funch-y MusingsFlemming Funch has a series of entries on the subject of organization and they’re worth a look: 2002-12-19: Reputation Systems |
Blogging With the Enemy
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If you disagree vehemently with a blog’s point of view, why would you spend time there? Do you go there to get along a little better or to work yourself into a lather? I thought of this when I came across Eric Norlin’s rant yesterday. Eric’s had it up to there with the whiners (lower case, with an “h”) who wish the world were better than it is and who think the Internet’s protocols contain the seeds of a fairer, more collective society:
So. Eric’s bottom line is the bottom line. Fair enough—Xpertweb is intractably focused on its practitioners’ bottom lines. But I can think of no finer attribute for a business tool than that it helps us all get along a little better, so I’m not clear how that might be a negative. The obvious lack of a “moral imperative” doesn’t mean that the Internet cannot function as if it has a pre-determined purpose. Richard Dawkin’s important book, The Blind Watchmaker, speaks directly to this effect, raised by “the 18th century theologian William Paley, who made one of the most famous creationist arguments: just as a watch is too complicated and too functional to have sprung into existence by accident, so too must all living things, with their far greater complexity, be purposefully designed.*” Where Reverend Paley divined (literally) a celestial Watchmaker, Darwin and Dawkins demonstrated that tiny changes to a species over eons of time can generate mechanisms of mind-numbing complexity and seeming purpose. Dawkins originated the notion of the gene’s cousin, the meme and, as Br’er Hussein might say, the Internet is the mother of all memes. In other words, just because the Internet has no moral imperative doesn’t mean that it does not intrinsically support certain modalities of behavior. Anyone can observe that email drives an organization away from hierarchy. That force is true even if there is no moral imperative. Eric’s rant seems to be directed as much at books as blogs, linking only to his buddy Chris “RageBoy” Locke, which cites his current reading, “Shoshana Zuboff’s latest recipe for overhauling capitalism,” The Support Economy, which sounds like an Xpertweb rant :
My instant sense was that no one’s forcing Eric to submit himself to those blogs’ (or books’) intellectual pollution. When an attack is so vitriolic, ya gotta wonder why. Doc’s House CallThen I found Doc Searls response, pointing out that Eric seems to be describing Eric’s Internet, not others’, and that the Internet is what you want it to be—the summer of love or the simmer of cash flow:
Not To ScaleThis sounds like a religious controversy, and economics often lies just beneath religious passion. That point supports Eric’s view that we bloggers need to be less touchy-feely and more about business that works. The Internet can be irritating to managerial capitalists. Even while it supports huge reductions in communications expense (internally, or with vendors and customers), it also so distorts the playing field that the Old Boy Network seems like a childhood dream. And managerial capitalism doesn’t seem to scale well to the Internet. Organizations often spend far too much on sites that few customers visit or, conversely, their business model can’t meet the demands of too many customers who want their emails answered and to take delivery as promised. It seems like Amazon’s the only one who’s nailed it. The genetics, anthropology and history I’ve The Slippery Slope of Power SharingIn the movie Stargate, a distant world was literally owned by a Pharaoh wizard-god with all the power and no one else with any. Sorta like our early monarchies. By 13th century England, the nobles, whom the monarchy relied upon to hold power (and who had therefore been granted some power) were able to wrest concessions from King John in 1215 by his execution of the Magna Carta. Well, there went the neighborhood. Since then, the inevitable has progressed: those who control assets and work have been forced to grant concessions to those who actually perform the work, and we’re not done yet. I believe we’re at the cusp of recognizing what’s been hidden in plain sight for 5,000 years:
Now, organizing work has been no mean trick, since managing workers is like herding cats. So it’s not surprising or even unfair that huge fortunes have been amassed by those who’ve organized work productively in the presence of raw materials, factories, distribution and accounting. The question on the Internet table is whether the self-organizing protocols we’re seeing and anticipating will be sufficient to interest the cats in herding themselves. This is precisely the point of this microeconomy design study. Self-organizing workers are a death threat to managerial capitalism. If managers’ primary purpose is to do things that are more easily and elegantly accomplished by an incipient web application, they’re in deep doo-doo. In many ways they’re acting that way, and why not? Ask yourself: How many managers do I know who are replaceable by a reasonably programmed web application? Yeah. Me too. If the cats can herd themselves, what is the purpose of the managerial class? When work must no longer be organized into jobs, what is the need for external organizers? The homes of people I know already have better Means of Production than their cubicles—faster CPUs, comparable broadband, chairs, desk space and coffee. Is management as we know it simply another intermediary whose franchise is questionable? Those are economic and humanist questions. It’s premature to dismiss the humanists as inadequate because they’re not discussing economics. The Federalist Papers never discussed the Uniform Commercial Code because the UCC is just details. John Hancock signed the Declaration of Independence boldly, so King George wouldn’t have to put on his spectacles to finger him. The important work done, he went back to work on his little insurance company. As will we all. |
A Reply to Eric
What He Said
A literate person with no literary interest is said to be unread. One with broad knowledge through reading is well read. Only an author is read, and presumably, we’re all better read than dead. In the 21st century, to be unread is coming to mean not read. The profound truths Henry Miller describes, spread by the tools Doc describes, are the birthright of humanity. Web blogs are the means to make each of us a voice in the global coffee house. One of my first blogs took the position that we’re in a new age of enlightenment, resonant of the eighteenth century when caffeine overcame alcohol and spawned conversations worth holding. The blogging boom may be self-referential to the point of incestuousness, but it’s inspiring if you dig the right of Everyman to reach her potential. Blogging seems to be accelerating rather than slowing. Richard Dawkins calls it positive feedback in The Blind Watchmaker and Freeman Dyson calls it autocatalysis:
The Blogging School of World Enlightenment believes that web logs, expressed through improving tools, is the answer. Indeed, what transformation ever took place without conversations to spur it on? Towards a Common VoiceThe problem with a planet of bloggers is, how can we quantify the clustering of discrete trends and imperatives the bloggers feel strongly about? My proposal continues to be a coherent blog aggregation protocol:
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Postcards from the Edge
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Multiple reports were expelled into the surrounding ether from the Supernova conference on decentralization in Palo Alto (blogged by Jeremy Allaire, Cory Doctorow, Glenn Fleishman, JD Lasica, Mitch Ratcliffe, Doc Searls and David Weinberger, according to Dave Winer and Dan Gillmor. Dan was even pressed into service to replace a scheduled keynote by Clay Shirky, stranded here in NYC by his airline). Dave Winer participated as a panelist on blogging but was tepid at first about even the bit of centralized meatspace the conference required:
Understandable. Conferences, like computer magazines, seemed to have been eclipsed by the immediacy of the web. But the unexpected seemed to happen as the conference was blogged from the floor by many who brought their unique insights, their own publics and shared the ability to look over each other’s shoulders. Even Dave seemed to warm to it, perhaps helped by companionship over spicy noodles:
Life’s like that. We’d rather stay in our own cocoons but are forced to congregate and we end up getting more than we expected. “April is the cruelest month,” T. S. Eliot lamented over spring’s annual invitation to party. Well NamedLike the Supernova conference, supernovas are the source of the heavy elements that have been organized into humans and other simple creatures. The Big Bang was certainly the archetype of centralization – everything’s been rushing to the edges ever since. The elements spewing from the big bang were lightweight: hydrogen, helium, some deuterium and lithium. Evolution’s just a process of combining in novel ways. In the primordial minute or so, sub-nuclear particles coalesced into subatomic particles and then into atoms, molecules, etc. My favorite data point is that a neutron has 10.3 minutes to join up with a proton or it disappears. I guess a 16-year-old could relate. After spreading around the universe, the light elements coalesced enough to form stars and to fire up the fusion of hydrogen into helium and thence into bigger molecules right up to carbon, iron, etc. Cosmologists point out that life depends on supernovae to expel those elements out into space to populate the universe with enough heavier elements to support organic chemistry. Every interesting atom in our bodies was cooked in the fires of an unnamed sun and exploded into our sun’s orbit by a supernova. The StupidnetCory Doctorow was inspired by David Isenberg’s talk on the promise of the Stupid Network:
David Isenberg seems to assume what everyone else seems to dismiss out of hand – that we can run fiber to the home and be done with it. If the cablecos could profit on coax 30 years ago, why is it assumed someone else can’t make sense of fiber today – it’s not like you can’t buy stuff using it. Cory references George Gilder who is worth quoting here. Gilder’s Law of the Telecosm holds that bandwidth capacity grows ten times faster than Moore’s Law of microprocessors doubling every 18 months or so. He pointed out as early as 1992 in The Coming of the Fibersphere that, “In a world of dumb terminals and telephones, networks had to be smart. But in a world of smart terminals, networks have to be dumb“. Gilder characterized an optical fibersphere, analogous to the atmosphere from which we use clever radios to pluck just the message we want while ignoring the rest. The rise of ubiquitous clever connected machines threatens every intermediary and its employees and shareholders. Whether they’re telcos, “content” companies, wireless providers or the politicians who work for them, there’s a zillion people and organizations which, however clueless they may be, can sense that there’s something radically wrong with their income model and a lot of franchises are about to be cancelled. His Fibersphere article hoped that the owners of fiber would just hook it all up together and let us light it from the edges, so that every packet is propagated everywhere to be grabbed by just the intended recipient. Under this model, a signal will travel down the fiber to Beijing faster than it will move from your microchip to the back of your computer. The solution of the centralists is cleverness. We’re promised services that the smart machines don’t quite do yet (but will), like Voice Over IP, Pay Per View, And that’s the take-away from any discussion about decentralization vs. concentration. When you buy a service, you don’t buy it from a company or its owners or its asset base or even a stable set of employees. You buy it from a business plan and nothing more. “The most malleable of all laws (Moore’s Law, Gilder’s Law) is accounting law.” If the business plan doesn’t work out, your trust will be violated in a New York minute. Airlines routinely cancel flights to maximize their scarce returns, and probably don’t have a lot of choice. Clay Shirky, trying to get to the Supernova conference to deliver his keynote, could only hope that his reservation reflected a reservoir of resources, competence and intent adding up to a timely flight to the west coast. Unfortunately you don’t buy a plane ticket from a pilot, a worthy craft and loyal crew, but from a set of contingent, often promiscuous business intentions. Separation of Church and StatementI’m convinced we need to separate representations about quality from those from whom we seek quality. Until quality is quantified and rolled up into useful data across vendors, customers and individual products, we’ll continue to stumble around in the agora bumping into the stalls. It’s information that will never be organized by vendors since it chronicles the failure of business plans that were never going to work anyway, and in some vague sense, they knew it all along. |
Blobbing for Dollars
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Jonathan Blocksom and I have been lobbing blogs back and forth (blobbing?) on the fine points of Xpertweb’s many-to-one compensation algorithm. Here’s his latest:
I had been reluctant to expose our thinking until closer to release, but this shows why Doc wanted me to go public. The protocols improves as their concepts are debugged. Some clarifications: There are no set rules for Xpertweb users, since there’s no way to enforce the rules and no central system to collect the money, redistribute it and, presumably, to skim something off the top. The only mechanism to enforce standards are the agreements made among users of the protocols. The first users will start with an agreement between each mentor and each trainee. This initial agreement will be to deal with each other fairly – simple rules like no spamming, fair grading, timely payment – the general principles that the larger economy has built a legal juggernaut to enforce. The simple mechanism to minimize unfair treatment is that work is delivered prior to payment and payment depends on satisfaction and all promises and actions are published to the world. Of course, one of the agreements is to send each of 5 mentors 1% of all transactions and mentor fees. The other understanding is that each trainee will enter into a similar, equally public agreement when acting as a mentor to subsequent trainees. This is expected to create consistent mentor-to-trainee understandings which are visible to the world, but there’s no way to know until the system propogates. Fine Points
It’s hard to imagine a perfect system, but the further the reward rules are from the rule developers, the better off will be the beneficiaries of the rules. |
The, Uh, Tension Economy
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Much was made, during the dotcom boom, of the Attention Economy. The notion was that attention is more important than profits and the web still looks that way. Today, Doc has dug deep into Michael Hall’s questioning of Doc’s and other bloggers’ Google-based attention-getting, in I’ve never felt so deconstructed in all my life. Specifically, Hall is distracted by what he sees as Doc’s obsession with his rank on Google. He wonders what it all means and why so many of us are blogging and why should we bother? After all, so little of it matters to anyone else. Here’s me quoting Doc quoting Michael Hall:
Hall’s hard questions seem to come from the viewpoint that seeking attention is vain, unbecoming, somehow beneath our dignity. I’d turn that around (which is how I seek attention). Suppose, for the moment, that our productive lives are only about getting attention, and the dignified self we think we are is just marketing.
Whew. Sorry about that, but I don’t have time to make it shorter. Memes, Memes, Me! Me!I can’t tell the difference between ROM code and RAM code. If something feels like the right thing to do, I do it, and rarely know exactly why.
I have no direct proof that any of those ideas will have the desired effect, but I’ll do them anyway. Docking His MemesSo Doc’s RAM may be as interested in spreading his memes as his ROM is interested in spawning his genes. We parents don’t care whether our gene carriers are pretty or smart or how many toes they have. We just want to give them the best shot we can. You know, the way flatworms and geneticists and Muslims do. There is no intrinsic meaning to any of these memes, but how we respond to them is important. When I post something that Michael Hall thinks is trivial, it may have meaning for someone else. If not, and my posts get scant attention, I’ll change them so they get more. Bees and ants learn this and so will the authors of the “bite-sized ‘my little dog entries’ “ that bother Michael. Michael and Doc:
When Doc gazes in his Google mirror on the wall, he’s seeing his progeny and he’s as proud of them as he is of his son, reeling off the names of constellations. From the culture’s standpoint, they’re the same, experiments that may take root and may not, or might only for a while but be useful for a time. Michael Hall’s questions are necessary and helpful. His are powerful memes hoping to overcome the weaker but more pervasive memes of vapid ramblings on irrelevant happenings. If his ridicule withers a few of those wastes of our time, then our collective intelligence will have been raised. But if Pop Culture continues its decline into meaninglessness (from Michael Hall’s standpoint), then we will be the most homogenized, lowest common denominator culture in history. His fears are shared by Richard Dawkins, the Eastern Elite and the GOP’s conservative intelligentsia, all of whom know the prole From its dark nadir of inconsequential text ricocheting among the navel-gazettes of the Land of Blog, our lock-stepping networked culture of uniform mediocrity will have the potential (but not destiny) to energize simultaneously, like the similarly insignificant, lock-stepping photons of a laser, to reach levels of relevance, focus and intensity inconceivable in the old days of a few clever, entitled, published wise men attempting to illuminate the vast proletariat of the unpublished and the unread. Is Google’s mirror on the wall a physicist’s half-mirror? Like quantum mechanics, evolution’s a crap shoot. |
Reader’s Remorse
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Jonathan Blocksom blogs his sugar-coated skepticism of the proposed Xpertweb microeconomy:
Aha! The well-documented Xpertweb gag-me-with-a-spoon reaction! I’ve been meaning to be more thorough in treating this most interesting Xpertweb UI issue – the built-in mentor fee wealth/retirement mechanism, based on a multi-level algorithm. But, since no serious script writer would even storyboard the guys in Washington, I’ve been distracted. Let’s talk about something even more interesting – Money For the Rest of Us. What if we just get together to wire money to each other without asking anybody’s permission?
Why Xpertweb’s “Pyramidal Structure” Should Disturb You Too
My purpose is not to answer the questions, but to point out the issues. But here are the answers Jonathan Blocksom deserves: What if my mentor sucks?
We Answer Some Questions and We BlocksomJonathan Blocksom’s questions: What if I mentor someone who turns out to be a bozo, and for whatever reason I can’t turn it around?
What about people who are fantastic engineers but have terrible management skills?
And are you, Britt Blaser, the alpha-mentor who will reap the 1% rewards of all of xpertwebs workers?
The Xpertweb FormsThe initial set of Xpertweb PHP-driven forms are based on an open XML data structure, with no rules about how the data is collected or displayed. If you want to use Radio Userland to generate valid XML RSS feeds that advertise your URL, skills, product names, mentors, where to send your money, etc., then you can do it that way. You can use pure XML for output, to aggregate and present data if you like, rather than the PHP-enabled initial forms. This presumes our favorite browsers ever handle xml properly… Our microteam looks forward to the post-design stage when it attracts the attention of open source experts start designing tools good enough to make ours look primitive. Presumably, they will use their own Xpertweb tools to sell their own Xpertweb tools. |
